How to Make a Round-Robin Bet at a Sportsbook | BettingPros

Hey All - it’s that time of year again to look at all of my bets (something I do each Christmas) and figure out “hmm why the fuck did I do that all year?”
Most sports betting places have your account on file and can provide your past year of history with Categories (Money Line, First TD Scorer, etc), Team, Dates, and Amounts. You can just email their customer service team and they’ll turn it around quite quickly.
Here are some issues I found in the DraftKings Data set after receiving: 1. Fix Parlays/Round Robins: DK will post a line-item PER part of the Parlay. If you bet 10$ on a 5 Leg Korean Baseball Parlay, it will show up as 50$ Wagered and 0$ gain, or possibly 50$ Wagered and 500$ gain when really it was just 10$ to win 100$. This will throw your numbers way off. 2. Normalize the Categories to the best of your ability or until you get absolutely sick and tired of watching your “Manchester City to Score Goals in Both Halves and Win” locks lose outright. 3. Pivot and Prosper with your data.
Some personal findings and 2021 betting resolutions:

1. STOP BETTING ON SOCCER (-25%)
2. STOP BETTING ON PLAYER RECEIVING YARDS (-80%)
3. Start betting more on Touchdown Scorer (+59%)
4. Start betting more on Total Points (Even for the year)
5. CONTINUE TO USE ALL PROMOS (+300$ DK, for instance KC +101 50$ Max Bet)
6. STOP BETTING ON NBA PLAYER POINTS (-50%)

NUMBER 5 IS IMPORTANT. Promos are free money. You can have 500-700 “free” dollars if you sign up for the major books and just play promos.
Happy Chrismahannakwanzaa to all my fellow Sportsbetters out there and have a wonderful 2021!

So I was on bovada and sportsbook.ag and I wanted to make a parlay with 4 division winners and the SB winner. I realized that the SB winner may technically be dependent on divisional winner (not always true with wildcard but I get it). So I just wanted to do the 4 divisional winners but I cant seem to find a site that let's me parlay. Bovada allows a 2-team round Robin but not a full parlay. I've seen people post about these bets before so I'm a bit confused. Anyone have any ideas on why they may be dependent on one-another or not allowed?

NFC East:
Dallas: Perhaps the simplest team to evaluate-- Zeke Elliott will be a no brainer RB1, top 3 pick. Dez Bryant goes back to being a no brainer WR1. Dak Prescott is somebody to let the Cowboys homer in your league take too early. I like him, but he’s not a QB to go out of your way to get. Nobody else worth considering except for late in drafts (Cole Beasley WR5?)
New York Giants: Odell Beckham’s strong finish vaults him right back to what we thought of him last year, a top 3 WR. Draft philosophies will differ, however, as we should see a lot of RBs go early next year, pushing him to a comfortable mid 1st round pick that I’d be very satisfied with. Sterling Shepard will be a breakout candidate, likely available after the first 20 WRs are selected. Paul Perkins will also be a breakout candidate, drafted as an RB3/RB4 with some home run potential. Eli Manning is borderline undraftable.
Philadelphia: In what has amounted to a truly terrible 2016 season, there are few Eagles to be excited about for 2017. Can Carson Wentz take the next step? He’s probably not draftable on the mere hope of doing so. Jordan Matthews will be a bounce back candidate, but no more than a WR3 for me, and Zach Ertz will be a back end TE1. I’ll pass on all of the RBs unless Wendell Smallwood looks like a candidate for the first crack at early down work, but even he will likely be an RB4 in drafts, barring some serious hype.
Washington: After getting no respect for his 2015 season, where he carried many teams to a fantasy championship, Kirk Cousins was even better in his 2016 campaign, flirting with 5,000 yards and finishing stronger than he started. QB is deep, which should keep his draft price down. I’m still not going out of my way for him, but I’ll be very comfortable with him as my QB1 in the middle rounds. DeSean Jackson’s strong finish will have his draft stock sitting right around that same, low end, high ceiling WR2 that he always is, while Jamison Crowder, in spite of a poor finish, should garner WR3 support. As of this moment, though I like Rob Kelley, I’m certainly not considering him a shoe-in to reprise his late season workhorse role going into 2017. Look for Mack Brown or a 2017 draftee to compete with him as they likely move on from Matt Jones. Jordan Reed is a poor man’s Gronk in just about every way, including his high injury risk. I’ll probably let someone else take the plunge, but on talent alone, he’ll still be a valuable piece in drafts as a risk/reward top 5 TE.
NFC North:
Chicago: There could be some legit difference makers here in 2017. As of now, I’ll assume they either let Matt Barkley take the reins, or don’t make a significant upgrade at the QB position if they do make a move, although they could be a possible splash destination for Tony Romo. Either way, Jordan Howard is probably an RB1 and a solid upside 2nd round pick after finishing as RB9 in 2016. In the passing game, whoever the QB is, Alshon Jeffery will still be in the WR2 conversation, at least, if he sticks around, while Cameron Meredith should be a high upside WR4 with home run potential. Zach Miller is above replacement level when healthy, but he isn’t anybody to get too excited about.
Detroit: Chock full of mediocrity is how I’d describe the cast of characters here. Depending on offseason moves, I might view Matthew Stafford as a low end QB1/high end QB2. Golden Tate and Marvin Jones certainly don’t ascend to the WR2 conversation and the backfield is simply too crowded, with the impending return of Ameer Abdullah, though if I had to draft one in 2017, it’s probably still Theo Riddick, especially in PPR. Eric Ebron is a player with some leap potential, but he’s still a TE to settle for, not target, in 2017.
Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers, in spite of a rough start and some late season injuries, finished the year as the overall QB1 by a solid margin. The passing game is flush with talent as Jordy Nelson and Davante Adams are a high end WR1 and WR2 respectively. I’m still not certain that Randall Cobb is done at age 27, but for now he’s flirting with going undrafted in 2017. Ty Montgomery will be one of the most difficult players to evaluate heading into drafts next season, but there’s definitely some big upside there that could see him selected as an RB2. Eddie Lacy, to me, is an afterthought. If I’m the Packers, I would make little to no effort to bring him back and, for the moment, I’m not interested in James Starks or Christine Michael either. Jared Cook will be a deep sleeper at TE with some appeal for those who punt the position.
Minnesota: Is Adrian Peterson going to be the ‘Arian Foster 2016’ of 2017? I understood the appeal to Foster this season and I understand that the same will exist for Peterson next season, but I won’t be the guy to throw my hat in that ring. I’ll more likely be interested in Jerick McKinnon as a lottery ticket if Minnesota addresses their woeful offensive line in the offseason. I’m selling on Adam Thielen’s late season splash sustaining into next year, but I still find Stefon Diggs intriguing. Nagging injuries derailed what looked like a potential legit breakout early in the year. Kyle Rudolph will be a boring, but serviceable back end TE1 per usual, whether Sam Bradford or Teddy Bridgewater is under center.
NFC South:
Atlanta: What are we to make of Matt Ryan’s seemingly out of nowhere QB2 overall finish in 2016? Your guess is as good as mine, but it’s hard for me to believe he simply figured something out this, his 9th year. Still, he’ll probably be drafted as a mid range QB1, which is fair, I’m just not willing to make a substantial investment and I’ll be more inclined to wait a few rounds and draft Cousins instead. Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman will both see significant love in drafts next year. We rarely see these situations pan out for both players. Whether by injury or by one simply asserting himself over the other, I’d figure on one ascending to RB1 status and one fading to relative obscurity or, at the very least, failing to return adequately on the investment you’ll need to make on him. Personally I’d bet on Coleman as this season he’s shown flashes of potential super stardom. That said, Devonta is a great RB, so I may elect to pass on both if the price tags are as high as I expect them to be. Julio Jones will be rightfully viewed as an injury risk, but may have back-doored himself into being a value in drafts next year, pending what he shows in the postseason. Plenty of people will be gun shy after the late season injury. The most interesting among the rest of the weapons is Taylor Gabriel, but I’m not willing to bet on him as more than a deep sleeper until I see evidence that we have any right to expect volume from him, exciting though he may be.
Carolina: It’s hard to have a more disappointing fantasy season than Cam Newton’s 2016. Both the 2016 and 2017 versions of Cam will be perfect representations of why you don’t spend big on a QB. He sunk the owners who blew an early pick on him in 2016, but he could represent tremendous value as a mid round pick in 2017, as I think we have to consider something resembling his 2015 season as at least being within his range of outcomes. Carolina acknowledged that they may have rushed Kelvin Benjamin back too soon, so I’ll be willing to give him a hard look as a bounce back in 2017 right along with Cam. Olsen is boring, but as reliable a player as you can really hope for at the TE position. I never seem to be willing to shell out the draft currency for him, but I can’t hate the idea of doing so. That’s two strikes on Devin Funchess, and these are of the flailing, mistimed, 360 degrees variety. I have no interest in seeing him swing the bat for a third time. I think it’s pretty fair to call him a bust and leave him for dead. Ginn is destined to be a desperation top 45ish WR for every game for the remainder of his career, nothing more. Jonathan Stewart, if healthy, is about the most boring RB you could possibly draft, but there’s still potentially something there even if I’d prefer to see a fresh face in that backfield.
New Orleans: I’ll be betting that Brees can outrun Father Time for at least one more season in 2017. Brandin Cooks and Michael Thomas are both squarely in the back end WR1 conversation and Mark Ingram has finished strong enough to see his high end RB2 stock restored. One of the biggest disappointments of the 2016 season, it remains to be seen whether I’ll be masochistic enough to try Coby Fleener in 2017. At least I’ll be assured of getting him for a bargain basement price if so. The situation is still mouthwatering and even a modest improvement on 2016 could yield a TE1 season from a pick that’s likely to draw laughs from the peanut gallery in 2017 drafts.
Tampa Bay: Mike Evans headlines a passing offense that actually had more fantasy usefulness than we probably had a right to expect. I’m thinking that he might be attainable for a second round pick in 2017 and I think he just might be a guy I have to get if I find myself at the 12/13 turn. Jameis Winston acquitted himself well enough to be back in the low end QB1 conversation for 2017 and Cameron Brate emerged as a potential stud at the TE position. The backfield, on the other hand, is a mess. I can’t help but think that Doug Martin is done. As impressive as Jacquizz Rodgers was, in spurts, in 2016, I’ll be more likely to bet on Charles Sims in 2017 assuming they don’t add anybody.
NFC West:
Arizona: David Johnson just turned in, arguably, a perfect fantasy season. He’d be my lead pipe lock as the #1 overall pick in 2017. The passing game, on the other hand, was as big a disappointment as a group as any in the NFL. Carson Palmer was awful until the final handful of games. Larry Fitzgerald faded hard down the stretch, Michael Floyd was playing his way out of the NFL before getting cut after a DUI, and hopefully John Brown’s concussion issues in the offseason scared you off of making any kind of 2016 investment in him too. JJ Nelson has as good a chance to lead this team in receiving in 2017 as anybody else I’ve named and that’s not meant to be a ringing endorsement of his draft prospects for next year. There’s precisely one asset to be had here in 2017 and you’ll need to draw a top 3 pick to have a chance at him.
Los Angeles: Todd Gurley was the biggest bust of 2016. Whenever a player performs so horrendously below expectations, there’s going to be the appeal of a greatly diminished price tag for a ‘split the difference’ play, but unless I see some big moves, I’m going to consider Todd a very risky bet in the 3rd round of 2017 drafts. Kenny Britt and Lance Kendricks had their moments of 2016 usefulness, but you could be forgiven if you left them off of your 2017 draft boards. Jared Goff doesn’t appear to be quite ready to front a useful passing game for fantasy purposes.
San Francisco: If Colin Kaepernick and Carlos Hyde return as starters, I’m actually going to like this situation a lot considering the 49ers are sitting on 2 wins through 15 games in 2016. They’re missing a WR, and if I were in the front office, that would be a big priority. Kaep has a fantasy friendly skill set, as evidenced by his blowup games in weeks 11, 12, and 16. Hyde will benefit from the threat of Kaepernick’s legs and return to mid/high range RB2 consideration. A stud WR added to this mix would make this an intriguing offense indeed. Alshon Jeffery anyone? No pass catcher on the current roster strikes my fancy as a draftable fantasy commodity outside of perhaps Vance McDonald if healthy.
Seattle: I don’t think the Seahawks are going to go into 2017 having invested as little in the offensive line as they did in 2016. For this reason, I’m betting on a big bounce back for Russell Wilson. Doug Baldwin has solidified his standing as a WR1 and whether Tyler Lockett can come back from a gruesome week 16 leg fracture or not, Paul Richardson et al can keep Russell’s deep passing game afloat. I’d still take Tyler as a flyer if he looks healthy heading into next season. Jimmy Graham, an additional year removed from his own injury, should be right back to being a mid/high end TE1. As for the backfield-- I bet against Thomas Rawls’s health, generally, in 2016, and I’m very comfortable doing the same in 2017. I will not make a significant investment in a Seahawks RB next season, but if one of them finds his way on my roster, it will be CJ Prosise.
AFC East:
Buffalo: LeSean McCoy was, no doubt, the lynchpin in a lot of 2016 championship rosters. He’s not getting any younger, but he should be an RB1, once again, in 2017, his age 29 season. Insofar as we’ve seen Tyrod Taylor benched, and Rex Ryan fired, we can probably figure on some wholesale changes to the Bills passing game. Sammy Watkins makes for an intriguing buy while his stock is at near rock bottom, but he’s about the only other player on this Bills team that can be rightfully considered an asset for fantasy purposes, and even then, I’d have a hard time being comfortable with him as anything more than a WR3. I see only replacement level options beyond Shady and Sammy.
Miami: Jay Ajayi is the first RB since Tiki Barber in 2005 to post three games with 200+ yards rushing. He isn’t without risk, but what RB is? I’d be comfortable enough with him as my RB1, even if I’m not quite ready to anoint him into the first round of drafts. This year was Ryan Tannehill’s last chance to prove himself in my book. He’s capable of keeping DeVante Parker and Jarvis Landry in the WR3 conversation, but he’s nothing more than a streamer in his own right. He’s settled into the same echelon of fantasy QB as Joe Flacco. There are big games to be had, but there’s no trust to be given.
New England: Tom Brady represents the 3rd in the holy trinity of QBs that have sat atop the standings for most of the last decade, along with Brees and Rodgers. There’s no reason to expect that to change as soon as 2017. LeGarrette Blount was an absolute TD machine, but it’s fair to wonder if Dion Lewis’s lost season went a long way to facilitating that opportunity. It might be difficult to choose between the 2 in 2017, a wrong choice could prove very costly and I’m figuring that James White is the odd man out with everyone healthy, albeit present enough to be a thorn in the side of Blount/Lewis owners. Gronk, though quite possibly the most talented pass catcher in the NFL over the last 5 years, is just too risky for me. As a collective, the fantasy community needs to ask itself just how far his price needs to fall before the risk becomes worth it. As an individual, someone in your league is going to take him more than a round too early IMHO. Julian Edelman is the kind of WR who takes a lot of physical abuse, so rather than view him as a bounce back candidate in 2017, I’m more inclined to see his regression to continue along its linear path. As impressive as Malcolm Mitchell has been in spots, I’m not ready to look at him as anything more than a deep sleepean underdog to stay on your roster for all of 2017 if you draft him.
New York Jets: Bilal Powell will be a high risk/reward RB2 in drafts next season if Matt Forte decides to hang ‘em up. Either way, he’s the Jets RB that I’d bet on. In the passing game, my take is that Brandon Marshall is no longer physically capable of turning in an excellent fantasy season. He should find his way into the WR3 conversation simply on the off chance that I’m wrong, but I’m not betting on him. In what seems like an eternity ago, Eric Decker was passing the eye test for me through about 9 quarters of football in September. He’s the Jets bounce back I’d bet on. Still, with the Jets QB situation as pitiful as it is right now, Decker is shut out of the WR2 conversation in 2017.
AFC North:
Baltimore: It was a long wait, but Kenneth Dixon is finally looking like the RB of note for the Ravens. West will probably be irksome to Dixon backers, but KD would be my clear preference as a high end RB3/Flex in 2017 drafts, with an opportunity for a legit breakout. As they turn the page from Steve Smith, nobody in the Ravens WR corps moves the needle for me beyond the deepest of sleepers. Baltimore seems like another possible Alshon Jeffery landing spot. Dennis Pitta was a nice story, but as far as I’m concerned, there aren’t any pass catchers currently rostered worthy of drafting in normal sized leagues.
Cincinnati: AJ Green’s injury was one of the most unfortunately timed fantasy travesties of 2016. Usually durable, I won’t hold it against him too harshly in 2017 as he’ll still be a WR1 and a coveted second round pick. To my eye Tyler Boyd deserves some look as a sleeper even if he has been outproduced by Brandon LaFell in AJ’s absence as the former is more likely to produce if all 3 return in good health. Tyler Eifert’s injuries have rounded out a TE position that has seen more attrition even than RB in 2016. Unfortunately, this could easily be the reality of the TE position in 2017 as well as so many of the guys we’ve leaned on at various times over the past 3 years, Gronk, Eifert, Reed, Graham, etc. are too talented to ignore, but too injury prone to count on. As far as the backfield is concerned, with apologies to Rex Burkhead, it may be time to bring in some reinforcements from the draft or free agency. Giovani Bernard’s torn ACL and Jeremy Hill’s second straight extremely inefficient season have left the Bengals with more questions than answers at the RB position. Andy Dalton has posted elite fantasy numbers before; I’m not inclined to believe he’ll do it again. There are sleeper QBs I’ll like better next season.
Cleveland: You know all of the QBs are either terrible or too old to invest in, but somehow Isaiah Crowell and Terrelle Pryor managed to sustain some level of fantasy relevance for some substantive portion of the 2016 season. If the fantasy football gods are just, they’ll find somebody who can at least ‘Brian Hoyer’ them to fantasy relevance in 2017, but needless to say, the upside is capped considerably. Duke Johnson is strictly a PPR guy and Corey Coleman needs to put down more than one excellent game tape for me to take him seriously.
Pittsburgh: If not for his 3 game suspension, Le’Veon Bell’s season line might look almost as ridiculous as David Johnson’s, albeit with a few more peaks and valleys. Still, he joins DJ and Zeke as the very easy consensus top 3 in drafts next season and one of the main reasons why very few of the zero RB enthusiasts had very much fun this fantasy season. Antonio Brown has been a hair less dominant than he was for the last couple of seasons, but nevertheless sits a scant 0.2 fantasy points ahead of Jordy Nelson as the #1 overall WR in 2016 scoring (standard, fractional). He’d be my pick if I drew the #4 slot in 2017, as of today. As much of a stud as Big Ben is at home, I think 2017 might be the year that I finally hold his road splits against him. He won’t be among my personal top 7 QBs, but I’ll still draft him if the price is right. After a season that saw all of Coates, Rogers, and Wheaton fail to distinguish themselves as a reliable Robin to Antonio Brown’s Batman, I will be willing to take a chance on Martavis Bryant pretty much exactly where I would have this season, had he not been suspended. Ladarius Green would be an intriguing low end TE1 choice if he’s healthy next August.
AFC South:
Houston: If I were guessing team’s records based solely on how well the individual fantasy players on that team performed in 2016, I’d have pegged Houston somewhere around the San Francisco/Cleveland range. Lamar Miller seems to have suffered from the added volume Miami was reluctant to give him. He’ll be a risky RB2 in 2017. DeAndre Hopkins has Todd Gurley to thank for not being the unanimous choice for fantasy’s biggest bust of 2016. He still edges out Allen Robinson for that dishonor among WRs. Brock Osweiler looks like the worst free agent QB signing since Matt Flynn, but I still would have liked to see how this offense would have looked if Will Fuller had stayed healthy. Either way, I’m not too excited about Hopkins even if he comes cheaply in 2017 drafts, but every man’s got a price. CJ Fiedorowicz wound up being perhaps the most relevant fantasy player in Houston during the stretch run. I’ll take him if I’m the last to pick a TE in 2017, and be perfectly satisfied.
Indianapolis: Andrew Luck’s 2014 still looks like the outlier season that his 2016 skeptics worried it was. That said, he’s still easily a QB1 even if he isn’t the next big thing. TY Hilton turned in an excellent season and should once again be drafted as a low end WR1, but Donte Moncrief just hasn’t been able to stay healthy enough during his young career to fully cash in on his nose for the end zone. Frank Gore is a candidate to retire after the season, and if he doesn’t, is a candidate to play very poorly in 2017, but the replacement is almost certainly not on the roster. And I don’t have any interest in putting any chips down in the Indianapolis TE roulette wheel, at least not in next year’s drafts.
Jacksonville: Blake Bortles falls on the opposite side of the Kirk Cousins coin insofar as he was the QB that the experts were right to bet against in 2016. It’s difficult to say whether he ruined Allen Robinson’s season or whether Allen Robinson ruined his, but we can say that the Jaguars were not an aesthetically pleasing spectacle for football fans or fantasy owners. Perhaps less surprising was the fact that the backfield combo of TJ Yeldon and Chris Ivory failed to prove fantasy friendly. Your guess is as good as mine as to which one looks like a worthwhile RB5 in 2017, but I’ll happily ignore both. Robinson, on the other hand, is a guy I will be monitoring closely. If he falls far enough, I can see paying a mid range WR2 price for him. Hurns eventually gave way to Marqise Lee, through ineffectiveness, then injury, but I’m inclined to believe I can find better sleepers at the position in 2017. Julius Thomas- Did I mention something about TE being an injury prone position in 2016? I won’t be drafting JT next year anway.
Tennessee: DeMarco Murray was a revelation through about the first dozen games. In hindsight, I wonder if the Titans regret not distributing the workload more evenly between Murray and Henry in the early part of the season, given how badly he faded, likely due to the toe injury. Likewise, Mariota had a long stretch of games where he looked every bit the fantasy QB1 that his owners didn’t pay for. Hopefully he recovers in time for training camp next season as he could be a potential bargain QB1 once more. As for the backfield, I’m more likely to use a mid round pick on Derrick Henry on the come than an early pick on DeMarco Murray on the decline. Rishard Matthews 2016 season was reminiscent of Packers James Jones. The TDs were more abundant than the overall volume should have allowed for. I’m not going to utterly ignore Matthews next year, but my interest level will be inversely proportional to the amount of overall hype that he generates. There’s no reason why Delanie Walker should be viewed any differently in 2017 than 2016 as long as Mariota can get back on the field in time for the preseason and once again make him a TE1.
AFC West:
Denver: So much depends on whether they go with Trevor Siemian or Paxton Lynch at QB. For now, I’m giving Siemian the edge. Assuming he takes the job, I’m not holding the poor finish in 2016 too harshly against the Sanders/Demaryius duo. The numbers are nearly identical at ~1,035 and 5 for both players. With another year of development from their QB, I could see modest improvements from both, leaving them in the mid range WR2 conversation. CJ Anderson’s recovery will also be an important thing to monitor. Devontae Booker utterly failed to inspire any confidence during his absence so I’ll be looking at CJ as an RB2 if he looks close to 100% heading into next season. On the other hand, if it’s time for Paxton Lynch, I’ll probably downgrade all three of the relevant guys a little bit. It’s hard to see any other player on the roster making a significant fantasy impact in 2017.
Kansas City: Jamaal Charles will be in another situation that my sensibilities lean toward avoiding if he gives it a go in 2017. On the flip side, as good as Spencer Ware looked in the first 3rd of the season, he faded as hard as any RB who didn’t face a significant injury down the stretch. Stepping up was a smoke and mirrors passing and gadget running game heavily featuring Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill. (Jeremy Maclin is dead to me until further notice). I’m not going to argue against Travis Kelce as a TE1 in 2017, but I worry that the last taste we’ve had of him is one that he isn’t going to sustain. We’ve seen him produce before, only to go back into the tank. How much of it is him and how much of it is Alex Smith is difficult to know, but the Alex Smith factor isn’t going away. Hill is a super-talented athlete- perhaps the most physically gifted pair of legs at the WR position in the NFL- but how excited can we really be about a WR who does most of his damage in the running game? I think he’s too exciting a player in the general sense to expect more casual fantasy players to resist. There’s some chance that I’m selling him short and that he’ll develop more of the traditional WR skills to parlay with that athleticism into an elite fantasy season in 2017, but it’s still a prospect I’m betting against, or at least not betting as much as someone else in my leagues is virtually assured of doing. Alex Smith is still just a streamer QB.
Oakland: Derek Carr’s injury is probably the most troubling real life NFL injury since Carson Palmer tore his ACL against the Steelers in the 2006 playoffs. Hopefully, it isn’t anything that will affect him heading into the 2017 regular season. Amari Cooper faded down the stretch, but it’s still easy to envision a scenario where he finally sees a true breakout in his 3rd year. Michael Crabtree has been an even better fantasy play in 2016, but I’m betting on that to flip next season. I’d draft Cooper as a high WR2 and Crabtree as a WR3. Carr will also still be a QB1 as long as he looks physically ok. As for the running game, it has been a frustrating situation to figure out all season long. Just when you think you can finally trust Latavius Murray, he takes a backseat to DeAndre Washington in the championship game. If the Raiders ever decided to feature Washington, he’d be the guy who interested me most, but as long as they have all 3 guys, it’s a situation that won’t produce anything better than a low end RB2 IMO. A free agent this offseason, Latavius, and by extension, the Oakland backfield will be a situation to monitor.
San Diego: Melvin Gordon was a stud RB1 destined to go in the first round of 2017 drafts before his season came to a crashing halt in week 14. I think this will be enough to push him down to the second round, but I’d still be reasonably comfortable drafting him there. On the other hand, can we really go back to the Keenan Allen well? As talented as he is, I’m going to need to see a tremendous discount on him to take him seriously in fantasy drafts in 2017. Banged up for much of the second half, Tyrell Williams managed to play through injuries to post a pretty impressive rookie year, where he’s likely to clear 1,000 yards and has already amassed 7 TDs. Although you’d like to see a greater measure of durability from Williams, I think he deserves consideration as a WR2 with serious breakout potential. Travis Benjamin and Dontrelle Inman are safely ignored IMO. Antonio Gates giving way to Hunter Henry would see the latter garner serious sleepebreakout/TE1 attention, but we’ll have to see how it plays out. Rivers, still flush with weapons in the passing game will be his usual, low end QB1 self regardless.
TL;DR- I know it is, but I still wanted to put my thoughts out there and I'll be revisiting these thoughts in August.

I’ve recently been betting round robin parlays and it has been pretty profitable. I see a lot of value in them per this example -
I have 6 MLB lines or oveunders i like in total on the day, if i bet all 6 at $10 dollars i would be risking $60 dollars and typically able to win around 57-59 back depending on the juice. If i were to bet all 6 of those teams in a round robin parlay every way at $1 dollar a bet i would have 56 combinations of parlays so risking $56 dollars to typically win somewhere in the range of 450-490 but i have had it be up around 800 depending on how many +odd bets i like on the day. Now i get that typically you’re not gonna go 6-0 but i’ve noticed even if i go at least 4/6 it’s around even... 3/6 slightly in the red or if 5/6 very much in the black.
Anyone else use a method like this and has anyone played with different combos of # legs/units risked that you see value in?

Hello,
1) I have a question between using straight bets vs. 2-3 round-robin play parlays. I have been reading that parlays may be a good way to allow someone to optimize their capital usage with a small bankroll so that one could risk less at any given moment in order to achieve the same Expected Profit and Growth outcome.
Basically, the Expected Profit, Growth is the same but the 2-3 round-robin play parlays uses a fraction of the bankroll. Would it not be better to do 2-3 round-robin play parlays over straight bets to optimize committing a smaller fraction of the bankroll. What would be the difference? Volatility????
I am using SBR Kelly Calculator
(https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/kelly-calculato)
across multiple independent events to determine sizing of straight bets.
For example:
3 Independent Events -110 American Odds and 55% Win Probability Expected Profit: 0.4139% - Same for all 3 scenarios below Expected Growth: 0.3107% - Same for all 3 scenarios below
Straight Bets. 1 2.6056%2 2.6056%3 2.6056%
Total stake for all single bets: 7.8168%
For 2-Play Parlay 1+2 0.0738%1+3 0.0738%2+3 0.0738% Total stake for all 2-team parlays: 0.2215%
For 3-Play Parlay 1+2+3 0.0021% Total stake for all 2-team parlays: 0.2215%
2) How does one determine the starting bankroll to use to determine bet sizing to deal with doing multiple sets of betting? This is in the scenario that the first set of bets hasn't been resolved to a starting bankroll for the next set of bets?
My thinking is a conservative approach to just assume you lose all of your first set of bets, and your current bankroll is used as the starting bankroll for next set of the bets.
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Would appreciate any insight!

If I have ten bets and want to place every bet in a 3 team round robin is there any way to have the bets generated on the website or do I have to manually enter every 3 team parlay?

Tuesday, Feb 19th Picks **HQ**
Toledo -3
Florida St. +1
Drake -4
Kentucky -11.5
 
--Theta Hedging Technique--
Utilizing alt lines:
Toledo -8 +200
Florida St. -5 +225
Drake -9 +190
Kentucky -16 +170
 
Create Parlay (1 unit) and 2-team round robin [6 bets] (1.5 units), for a total of 2.5 unit outlay. For example, $100 parlayed alt-lines and $150 on the round robin (Split between 6 two-team parlays at $25 each)
 
Theta Hedging techniques reduce risk, if as many as two picks lose. In the case of two picks losing, the total return on initial outlay is 2/3, or .667. For instance, if $250 total bet size was made, and two picks lose, the returned winnings would be $166.67, for a loss of $83.33. The beauty of a theta hedge, is that it allows you to recoup most of your initial bet amount, while still exposing you to extremely high upside potential.
 
Lets look at the scenario of one pick losing instead of two. In this scenario, the total returned on the initial bet amount is exactly $500.00, for a gain of 2x initial outlay.
 
Now for the most desirable outcome, hitting the hit 4-way parlay. In this scenario the full 4 team parlay is a win, which returns $7,164, as well as all the round robin bets winning, returning an additional $1,146. Totaling $8,310. $8,310/250 = 33x
Whereas taking only the alt-line parlay would've returned 71x
 
What you gain by reducing your maximum payout from 71x to 33x, is the majority of your money back if only 2 of 4 picks are winners, and a 2x return if 3 of 4 are winners.
 
Happy betting and good luck!
-TripleTheta
 

The season can't start soon enough, but to bide our time, here's a thorough overview of our roster as we move into the preseason, courtesy ESPN Insider:

New York Knicks player profiles for Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Derrick Rose and more - NBA

by Kevin Pelton on 2016-09-11 01:09:00 UTC
How will Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Derrick Rose and the New York Knicks do in 2016-17?
Here are our player scouting reports and analysis.

Projected starters

Derrick Rose
Position: Guard
Experience: 7 years
Age: 27
Scouting report
+ Injury-plagued former MVP still trying to play like a star
+ Poor outside shooter who struggled to finish after eye injury
+ Defensive effort is inconsistent at best
Analysis
From the highs of being drafted No. 1 overall by his hometown team and winning MVP to the lows of a series of injuries and criticism over his slow return, Rose saw it all during seven seasons with the Chicago Bulls. Now he gets a fresh start in the Big Apple after the Knicks gambled on Rose to fill their void at point guard.
In 2015-16, Rose played the most games (66) since he won MVP in 2010-11, but injuries still loomed over his campaign. Rose suffered an orbital fracture early in training camp and experienced vision problems thereafter, getting off to a slow start. After a 3-of-15 effort on Dec. 2, Rose's 2-point percentage bottomed out at 37.0 percent. The rest of the season, he shot 46.9 percent on 2s, more in line with his 2014-15 mark (46.5 percent).
Of course, even with normal sight Rose wasn't efficient enough as a scorer to justify the large role he continued to play in the Chicago offense. His usage rate dipped a bit last season to 27.3 percent, but even if you take out the month of November, Rose's .496 true shooting percentage (again in line with his .493 mark from the previous season) was better than only Kobe Bryant (.469) among players who used more than 26 percent of their team's plays.
At times, Rose can still rediscover the athleticism that made him so hard to contain in his early years, particularly when rested. As in 2014-15, Rose was far less efficient in the second game of back-to-backs (.458 true shooting percentage, per Basketball-Reference.com) than with one day rest (.488) and more efficient still with two days of rest (.512). Alas, the trend didn't hold for more than two days of rest, when Rose's true shooting percentage dipped back to .460.
Too often, when Rose is unable to get into the paint he settles for low-percentage perimeter shots off the dribble. He wisely cut his attempts from 3-point range after shooting worse than 30 percent from beyond the arc for a second consecutive season, but turned too many of those attempts into long 2-pointers that are less efficient considering they're not worth as many points.
Then there's defense. A plus at the position in his prime, Rose no longer can compensate with athleticism when he takes plays off. Without the protection of Tom Thibodeau's defensive scheme, Rose was exposed last season, ranking among the league's bottom five point guards defensively in ESPN's real plus-minus.
Courtney Lee
Position: Guard
Experience: 8 years
Age: 30
Scouting report
+ Experienced 3-and-D role player at shooting guard
+ Good 3-point shooter who could stand to take more
+ Solid individual defender who holds up against bigger opponents
Analysis
Lee is the needed role player at shooting guard Phil Jackson thought he was getting in Arron Afflalo last season, but Lee came at a high price. After helping the Charlotte Hornets finish strong after a midseason trade from the Memphis Grizzlies, Lee cashed in on a four-year, $48 million deal that will pay him through age 34 -- by which point he's likely to be in decline.
For now, Lee is an ideal offensive fit on a team with multiple shot creators. While he can occasionally create his own shot, Lee doesn't require the ball in his hands. You'll instead find him spotting up. Lee is a career 38.4 percent 3-point shooter who has been reasonably accurate from the wings (36.7 percent) and great in the corners (40.7 percent career, per Basketball-Reference.com). If anything, Lee should probably take more 3s and cut out the nearly quarter of his shot attempts he has used on long 2-point jumpers, something New York head coach Jeff Hornacek might encourage.
Given their other perimeter starters, the Knicks will need Lee to take the most difficult matchup. At 6-foot-5, Lee is a little too small to defend some bigger wings, but he's up for the challenge and does well against physical players. Lee's addition was a big reason the Hornets improved from 12th in the NBA in defensive rating before the All-Star break to seventh after the break.
Carmelo Anthony
Position: Forward
Experience: 13 years
Age: 32
Scouting report
+ Nine-time All-Star who's a premier one-on-one scorer
+ Now makes his living in the midrange
+ Poor defender who'd rather switch than fight through screens
Analysis
Anthony shook off any concerns about the patellar debridement that ended his 2014-15 season by playing at more or less the same level last season, earning his ninth All-Star appearance. After establishing himself as the greatest U.S. Olympic men's basketball player ever by winning a third gold medal, Anthony returns to a team built around his timeline. However, Anthony will have to adapt to playing with Derrick Rose, his highest-usage teammate since he played with Allen Iverson with the Denver Nuggets.
In his 30s, Anthony has become the master of the midrange. Per NBA.com/Stats, he led the league by making 3.7 2-pointers from outside the paint per game, which he shot at a healthy 44.5 percent clip. Anthony likes to isolate in the midpost and use the threat of the drive to set up an uncontested jumper. Because he gets to the basket less frequently than in his athletic prime, Anthony's free throw attempts have declined, and he shot a career-low 5.6 per game last year. But Anthony is still good at drawing and selling contact. During 2012-13 and 2013-14, his best offensive seasons, Anthony was able to boost his efficiency with high-percentage 3-point shooting. That hasn't been the case since then, with Anthony hitting nearly 34 percent of his 3s.
Defense has always been an issue for Anthony, and his diminishing athleticism only figures to exacerbate the issue. He might be forced to defend higher-scoring small forwards who are too big for Lee. The ultimate solution would be moving Anthony to power forward, since he's an excellent rebounder and it would facilitate his desire to switch off-ball screens. Alas, New York's offseason moves don't suggest that's in the immediate plans.
Kristaps Porzingis
Position: Forward
Experience: 1 year
Age: 21
Scouting report
+ Uber-talented 21-year-old who emerged as key contributor way ahead of schedule
+ Excellent shooter for his size who should improve beyond the arc in year two
+ Held his own against stronger opponents and showed potential as rim protector
Analysis
Even the biggest Porzingis fans acknowledged entering the 2015 draft that he'd probably be a multi-year project. Not so: Porzingis started right away at age 20 and was the Knicks' second-best player as a rookie. He probably would have won rookie of the year most seasons but settled for a second-place finish behind Karl-Anthony Towns of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Early on, Porzingis turned heads with a stunning series of putback dunks, which was odd because his offensive rebounding was poor for a power forward overall. That's to be expected since Porzingis spends much of his time on the perimeter. He shot just 34.3 percent from 3-point range as a rookie, but was much more accurate (45.4 percent) on 2-point jumpers beyond 16 feet, according to Basketball-Reference.com. International players tend to struggle with the longer NBA 3-point line in their first seasons in the league before improving in Year 2, so expect Porzingis to at least get to league average beyond the arc. His next step offensively will be improving his ability to post up smaller defenders teams put on him to counter the shooting. Per Synergy Sports tracking on NBA.com/Stats, Porzingis shot just 40.5 percent on post-ups, putting him in the bottom 10 among players with at least 100 attempts.
At 7-foot-3, Porzingis proved remarkably adept at defending smaller opponents on the perimeter. His huge wingspan allows Porzingis to play a step off and still contest shots, and his nimble feet allow him to cover ground quickly against the pick-and-roll. Naturally, Porzingis' size also makes him an effective shot blocker, and he swatted more shots than the average center. Ultimately, Porzingis' future lies in the middle, where he played about a quarter of his minutes last season according to Nylon Calculus tracking. Porzingis will have to add strength to defend bigger players down low, and New York seems in no hurry to move him there full-time.
Joakim Noah
Position: Center
Experience: 9 years
Age: 31
Scouting report
+ Skilled center whose scoring has deteriorated in wake of injuries
+ No longer has explosiveness to finish around the basket
+ Remains an excellent pick-and-roll defender and strong rebounder
Analysis
After trading starting center Robin Lopez to the Bulls as part of the package for Rose, the Knicks had a huge hole in the middle. They filled it with another ex-Chicago player, signing Noah to a four-year, $72 million deal that will pay him through age 35. With the deal, New York is betting big on Noah overcoming the dislocated shoulder that required season-ending surgery in January and the other maladies that have limited his explosiveness.
Before his season ended, Noah was shooting just 38.3 percent, down from 44.5 percent in 2014-15 and 47.5 percent when he was an All-NBA First Team pick in 2013-14. Never a great finisher at his best, Noah made just 42.5 percent of his attempts inside three feet, the worst mark among players with at least 100 attempts, according to Basketball-Reference.com. He also stopped shooting from the high post, making just two shots all season from beyond 15 feet -- down from 59 in 2013-14. Without the threat of him making shots, defenders can sag off Noah, closing off passing lanes and taking away his ability to find teammates.
Despite his offensive decline, Noah was still valuable to the Bulls for his defensive presence. Chicago's defense collapsed after Noah's injury and allowed 5.5 more points per 100 possessions with him on the bench, per NBA.com/Stats. Noah still covers ground well and is as savvy defending the pick-and-roll as any starting center. He's less effective protecting the rim -- opponents shot 52.4 percent inside five feet against him, according to SportVU tracking data on NBA.com/Stats -- and the Knicks might actually want to use Porzingis as their primary help defender when matchups allow. But Noah was a fine defensive rebounder in 2015-16 and can help Porzingis in that regard.

Reserves

Brandon Jennings
Position: Guard
Experience: 7 years
Age: 26
Scouting report
+ Longtime starter who shot poorly in return from ruptured Achilles
+ Excellent at creating low-percentage shot attempts; capable passer
+ Showed surprisingly little athletic decline after injury
Analysis
Having ruptured his Achilles in January 2015, Jennings returned nearly a year later, having lost his starting job with the Detroit Pistons to newcomer Reggie Jackson. Jackson's presence made Jennings expendable in a midseason trade with the Orlando Magic. After finishing out the season in Orlando, Jennings signed a one-year, $5 million deal with New York in the hopes of parlaying a big season in the Big Apple into a 2017 payday.
Given Rose's fragility, Jennings should have an opportunity to start at some point. Whether he makes good on it depends on whether his shooting bounces back. Never a high-percentage shooter, Jennings made just 32.9 percent of his 3-point attempts last season while taking more 3s than 2s. Jennings tends to shoot a lot of 3s off the dribble, so his percentage will never be great, but getting back to his career 35 percent mark would help. Because he's a low-percentage finisher, Jennings tends to be better at creating shots than hitting them, so he'd be most valuable to the Knicks if Anthony and Rose are both on the bench at the same time and he can be a focal point.
Coming back from the injury, Jennings looked as athletic as before. That would almost certainly make him New York's best defensive option at point guard despite his being a slight 6-foot-1.
Lance Thomas
Position: Forward
Experience: 5 years
Age: 28
Scouting report
+ Combo forward who contributes primarily at defensive end
+ Unexpectedly emerged as a 40 percent 3-point shooter last season
+ By far the Knicks' best defender against big wings
Analysis
An offensive liability over his first four NBA seasons, Thomas added a 3-point element almost overnight, making 44 triples in 59 games at a 40.4 percent clip last season. That made him an indispensable role player for New York, which re-signed him to a four-year deal worth more than $27 million as an unrestricted free agent.
Thomas was fourth on the Knicks in minutes played per game in the fourth quarter, reflecting his tendency to finish games as part of small lineups with Porzingis at center. Such combos allowed Thomas to guard the opposition's best forward, freeing Anthony from that responsibility. At 6-foot-8, 235 pounds, Thomas has ideal size to defend bigger wings or stretch 4s, and his ability to get low in his stance makes him effective individually on the wing. Alas, Thomas' focus on his assignment means he's almost a complete non-contributor on the defensive glass. He grabbed just 8.0 percent of defensive rebounds, worse than the average point guard.
Always a capable defender, Thomas was able to justify more minutes by virtue of his offensive transformation. He'd attempted just 23 3-pointers in his first four NBA seasons, making seven of them. Inevitably, some regression beyond the arc should be expected, although my SCHOENE projection system pegs Thomas to make a healthy 38.5 percent of his 3s in 2016-17.
Kyle O'Quinn
Position: Center
Experience: 4 years
Age: 26
Scouting report
+ Skilled backup center whose high-post game fits well in triangle
+ Has range to about 20 feet on jumpers and is a good passer for center
+ Fine shot blocker and rebounder who tends to be prone to fouls
Analysis
The emergence of Porzingis as a center option hurt O'Quinn, who also had to battle now-departed Kevin Seraphin for playing time off the bench. Despite offering effective play, O'Quinn averaged just 11.8 minutes per game. He has a chance to see more action this season, particularly given the likelihood of Noah missing time.
A good passer for a center (he averaged 3.4 assists per 36 minutes, better than Noah did in his first five NBA seasons), O'Quinn is also an accurate enough midrange shooter to keep defenses honest (43.9 percent on 2-point attempts beyond 16 feet, per Basketball-Reference.com). All of that made him a good fit at the elbow in the triangle, though O'Quinn can certainly be effective in a more conventional offense, too. Given the time he spends on the perimeter, O'Quinn's league-average offensive rebounding for a center is actually quite impressive, and he generally finished well around the basket before declining last season.
The burly O'Quinn blocks shots well but can be too aggressive in trying to contest. He has a bad habit of going for shot fakes and averaged 5.0 fouls per 36 minutes, which would be an issue were he to start in place of Noah. O'Quinn moves well for a center and covers a lot of ground. He's also a good defensive rebounder.
Sasha Vujacic
Position: Guard
Experience: 9 years
Age: 32
Scouting report
+ Longtime Phil Jackson player who offers triangle experience
+ After slow start, shot reasonably well on frequent 3-point attempts
+ Tries to do too much defensively to his detriment
Analysis
Accurately described by comedian Josh Gondelman as looking "like the protagonist in a Wes Anderson movie about basketball," Vujacic returned to the NBA after playing just two games in the previous four seasons. Having played five-plus seasons for Knicks president Phil Jackson when he coached the L.A. Lakers, Vujacic brings familiarity with the triangle offense and his typically aggressive style of play.
With Afflalo sidelined, Vujacic began the season as New York's starting shooting guard -- but not, as the old joke goes, making guard. At one point after falling out of the rotation, he missed 14 consecutive shots over nearly a month's time. Vujacic ultimately found his range after getting regular minutes under interim head coach Kurt Rambis and made 36.4 percent of his 3-point attempts. His 40.3 percent shooting inside the arc was a much bigger concern. Vuajcic has never finished well and took 28.5 percent of his shots in the dead zone between 16 feet and the 3-point line, per Basketball-Reference.com.
Even in his 30s, Vujacic continues to play an ultra-aggressive brand of defense that frustrates both opponents and at times his own fans. He'll get up into opponents far from the basket, running the risk of getting blown by off the dribble. But Vujacic's strong defensive rebounding was a plus for the Knicks' second unit.
Mindaugas Kuzminskas
Position: Forward
Experience: Rookie
Age: 26
Scouting report
+ Lithuanian combo forward coming to NBA at age 27 (when season starts)
+ Not a good 3-point shooter from shorter FIBA line
+ May struggle to find good defensive matchups
Analysis
A veteran European star who is part of the Lithuanian national team, Kuzminskas will make the leap to the NBA this season after signing a two-year, $5.8 million deal for New York's midlevel exception. Kuzminskas, who will turn 27 during preseason, is expected to help provide forward depth right away.
The 6-foot-9 Kuzminskas played small forward in Spain for Unicaja Malaga, where his size allowed him to effectively post up smaller defenders. Alas, Kuzminskas might not supply enough shooting to play the 3 in the NBA. He was a below-average 3-point shooter from the shorter FIBA line and may struggle to hit more than a third of his 3s in the NBA. One solution for the Knicks is to pair him with Lance Thomas in a frontcourt combination in which the two players can interchange forward positions depending on matchups.
Playing Kuzminskas with Thomas will also help hide him defensively, where he might not have a position. Kuzminskas isn't strong enough to deal with many NBA power forwards and figures to be a below-average rebounder in that role. Also, Kuzminskas doesn't figure to have the requisite lateral mobility to deal with NBA-caliber athletes on the wing. So he may prove a defensive liability.
Justin Holiday
Position: Guard
Experience: 3 years
Age: 27
Scouting report
+ Aspiring 3-and-D specialist who made progress as a shooter last season
+ Can provide secondary ballhandling but mostly plays off the ball
+ Lanky, long-armed defender who commits to defending one-on-one
Analysis
"Hawks University" decided to pull Holiday's scholarship midway through his first season in Atlanta, as the Hawks dealt him to the Bulls with a second-round pick for veteran guard Kirk Hinrich. Because of injuries, Holiday averaged 18.9 minutes a game in Chicago after the deadline, shooting 43.3 percent from 3-point range. He'll battle for reserve minutes in New York after being thrown in the Rose deal.
Holiday hasn't become a rotation player because he hasn't been a consistent outside shooter. He shot 32.1 percent from 3-point range during 2014-15 with the Golden State Warriors and made just 10 of his 45 attempts in Atlanta before catching fire over a small sample (60 shots) with the Bulls. If Holiday can merely get to 35 percent from 3, his ballhandling skills are good enough that he's a playable reserve.
Holiday is playing primarily for his defense anyway. He's 6-foot-6 with a wingspan measured at 7 feet, per DraftExpress. Because of his thin frame, Holiday isn't ideal against combo forwards, but he can handle most wings and would pair well defensively with the bigger Lance Thomas. At 27, Holiday doesn't have much upside, but he can provide low-cost minutes for a team in need of depth.
Willy Hernangomez
Position: Center
Experience: Rookie
Age: 22
Scouting report
+ Young Spanish big man who finishes well around the basket
+ Has good hands and is effective in the pick-and-roll game
+ Poor shot blocker who always figures to be limited defensively
Analysis
The Knicks added Hernangomez, who played with Porzingis in Sevilla, with a pick they purchased in the second round of the 2015 draft. After winning an ACB championship with Real Madrid and a bronze medal with Spain in the Olympics, the 22-year-old Hernangomez is headed to New York on a four-year contract worth almost $6 million.
Playing a small role for Real Madrid, Hernangomez made 66 percent of his 2-point attempts last season. While he's unlikely to shoot that well, Hernangomez has the tools to finish against NBA defenders. He can go up to get lobs out of the pick-and-roll game and also catches the ball well on the move before finishing from a variety of angles around the basket. Hernangomez is a good free throw shooter (70.7 percent last season) who has flirted with a 3-point shot in the past, though that's a long way from becoming a regular part of his arsenal.
The 6-foot-10 Hernangomez doesn't have the lateral mobility necessary to defend power forwards, so he's strictly a center and a below-average shot blocker in that role. Hernangomez rarely leaves his feet to block shots, which makes it difficult for him to contest shots at his height. Real Madrid mostly settled on having him drop in the pick-and-roll because when he tried to show on ballhandlers, teams could create open shots for the big men on pick-and-pops. Hernangomez will also have to improve his strength to defend one-on-one in the post. As a result, he's unlikely to see rotation minutes this season when the Knicks are at full strength.
Maurice Ndour
Position: Forward
Experience: Rookie
Age: 24
Scouting report
+ High-post big man who's a capable midrange shooter and passer
+ Not a particularly efficient scorer; gets few easy scores
+ Good shot blocker for a power forward
Analysis
Ndour impressed while playing for New York in the 2015 NBA Summer League in Las Vegas alongside Porzingis, but the Dallas Mavericks swooped in to sign him with a guaranteed contract. The Mavericks ended up overfilling their roster and Ndour was the odd man out at the end of training camp. After playing briefly with Hernangomez for Real Madrid, he has finally landed with the Knicks on a two-year minimum deal that's fully guaranteed this season.
The triangle offense was a perfect showcase for Ndour's skills. He's an accurate midrange shooter who had college 3-point range (he made 27 3-pointers at a 43.5 percent clip as a senior at Ohio) and also a good passer for a big man. With the Mavericks, Ndour attempted to show he could make the NBA 3 and shot 2-of-13 beyond the arc in the preseason. Hopefully that experiment is behind him, though eventually Ndour needs to score more efficiently than he can subsisting on a heavy diet of long 2s.
A quality shot blocker in college, Ndour blocked two shots a game during his impressive summer-league run. His ability to protect the rim and defend power forwards might ultimately make him a good partner for Hernangomez, though neither is in line for rotation minutes at this point.
Marshall Plumlee
Position: Center
Experience: Rookie
Age: 24
Scouting report
+ Late-blooming younger brother of two NBA centers
+ Ultra-high-percentage finisher who knows limitations
+ Weak defensive rebounder who may have trouble with NBA athleticism
Analysis
The younger brother of fellow Duke products Miles and Mason, Plumlee will join them in the NBA this season. After playing sparingly his first three seasons in Durham, Plumlee emerged as a starter as a senior. His performance was enough to earn him a three-year minimum contract from New York as an undrafted free agent with his 2016-17 salary fully guaranteed.
It's safe to say that Plumlee knows his role on offense. He used just 12.1 percent of Duke's plays as a senior, and that was up from single-digit usage rates the previous two seasons. Plumlee will finish dump-offs around the rim at a high percentage (he shot 68.8 percent last season after hitting 76.2 percent as a senior) and never tries anything else. Per Synergy Sports tracking, Plumlee attempted just four shots all season from beyond five feet. When he doesn't have the ball, Plumlee is battling for position on the offensive glass.
While he's got similar size to his brothers, Plumlee isn't the same kind of athlete, and that may ultimately limit his NBA career. He may struggle in pick-and-roll coverage and against stretch big men. Plumlee was only a decent shot blocker in college and was a poor defensive rebounder, which suggests those will become major shortcomings in the NBA.
Ron Baker
Position: Guard
Experience: Rookie
Age: 23
Scouting report
+ Combo guard who's likely to play point in NBA
+ Will have to prove he can defend NBA point guards
Analysis
Baker helped take Wichita State to unprecedented heights -- a Final Four as a freshman, an undefeated regular season as a sophomore -- but went undrafted before signing a deal with the Knicks to fight for the 15th roster spot in training camp. As a Shocker, Baker started alongside Fred VanVleet and also backed him up, and he'll likely have to settle in as a point guard in the NBA at 6-foot-4.
Working in Baker's favor is New York's need for a third point guard, given Derrick Rose's injury history. Working against him is the fact that he's struggled at times with his decision making when confronted with NBA length and athleticism, and he hasn't had to guard quicker athletes on a regular basis.
J.P. Tokoto
Position: Guard
Experience: Rookie
Age: 22
Scouting report
+ Athletic wing player in search of an outside shot
+ Has shown promise as wing defender
Analysis
Tokoto made headlines last fall when he passed on playing overseas in favor of signing the non-guaranteed tender offer the Philadelphia 76ers were required to make to retain his rights as a second-round pick. Tokoto was waived during training camp, making him a free agent, and ended up playing in the D-League. He's likely headed back after signing with New York, given the team doesn't need more wings, but will at least get a $100,000 bonus via the guaranteed portion of his contract (per Eric Pincus of BasketballInsiders.com).
A phenomenal athlete, Tokoto has to prove he can keep defenses honest with his outside shooting to stick in the D-League. He failed to do so last season with the Oklahoma City Blue, shooting 25.0 percent from 3-point range.
Chasson Randle
Position: Guard
Experience: Rookie
Age: 23
Scouting report
+ Shooting guard in the body of a point guard
+ Played well in summer league
Analysis
After playing his first season out of Stanford in the Czech Republic for ČEZ Basketball Nymburk, Randle averaged 18.3 points, 5.0 assists and 3.0 steals in three games for the Knicks in the Orlando Pro Summer League. He parlayed that into a deal with $100,000 guaranteed, per BasketballInsiders.com. That performance aside, Randle will have to prove he can run the point to make the roster. While he did at times in college, he and the team were most effective when he played off the ball. That's not realistic in the NBA at 6-foot-2.

We are to the point in the MLB season that we know exactly which teams are good.

• Cubs
• Giants
• Orioles
• Nationals
• Rangers

All of the above teams have 40+ wins.
Does it make any sense to bet round robins (parlays of 2s not 3s) with these teams in it, every day?
I mean, honestly, these teams win at least 59% of the time.
You should, based on win percentage, win most of the time. So a slow steady stream of cash should come in (can't expect them to win every night).
I'm sure there is a fatal flaw in this...can someone point it out for me? -- Or at least tell me what you think?

Decided to do a little experiment for week 3. For each of the 16 games I would place 4 bets: spread, o/u, parlay, and 6 point teaser. So 64 bets total. All bets same amount. Now I don't follow the NFL closely enough to really know the spread and o/u. So I decided to use the predictions by 538 and Massey instead of emotion/gut. 538 for the spread and Massey for the o/u.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/
http://www.masseyratings.com/pred.php?s=nfl
With conclusion of MNF here are the final results.
Spread: 12-4
O/U: 2-14
Parlay: 1-15
Teaser: 3-13
The O/U obviously killed the parlay and teaser bets. I must admit, a lot of the O/U predictions felt wrong to me, but I wanted to systematic about the bets and not go against the Massey predictions. I'm tempted to do another week 4 experiment, although this time I might try a new source for o/u predictions. Heck I might just flip a coin! Or maybe I might switch things up and do team parlays or round robins instead of the o/u. Feels like O/U is just too unpredictable. The spread prediction for MNF was correct but the O/U was off by 24 points!

Alright, so the last 3 days I've been using this thought process.... fade the public.
I've been "in" pretty much every game for the last 3 days since I've been trying this.
I look to see who the public is betting on heavily (generally over 65%, 68%+ I love) also I take into account the number of bets on one team (1000+ is love, 750-999 is safe, and 500-750 is an alright amount)
I also take into account home and away team.
I've noticed I've been taking a lot of the dogs as most of my bets are getting points.
I hit an 8 team parlay Sunday, and was 7/8 on another one the same day.
Monday I was 7/8 in another 8 team parlay
On Tuesday I had Virginia, Tennessee, w. Virginia, Marquette, Miami OH, 76ers all ML upsets
Today I had the Kings SU, hornets pushed, lakers pending, and went 8-1-1 with USC pending right now in CBB today
However, I am too impatient to just bet all my picks straight up and hope to win "minimal" money, and I try to hit the jackpot on parlays because I don't go perfect on the day 1-3 teams will mess up the parlays and I just have to hope one of my combinations hits.
Should I do round robins instead ? Should I just bet them straight up and try to make a little money each day?
Any thoughts?
Thanks guys. First time posting my own thread!

I have the Packers (-150), Seahawks (-230), Falcons (-441), and the Saints (-160) in a 3-team parlay Round Robin.
As far as I can understand, this means that one team can lose and I will still win my bet as long as the other 3 teams win...
Amirite?
But what I can't figure out is, what if all 4 teams win? Do I win more than I would for the just the 3 teams winning?
Thanks for your help.

I have been betting round robins at Bovada. The best explanation of round robin betting I've found is here. The advantage, fun of robin robins is you get to play multiple parlays and if all your picks win BINGO! And if one of your fighters lose, all is not lost because there will be parlays they aren't included in.
At Bovada, instead of showing you all the possible parlays they show you a list of the all fighters you've picked with the fighters names repeated over and over making for a hella long and confusing betting slip.
I called them about a round robin that included Ryan (Fucked me with a shit strategy) Bader. All my other picks won. I was expecting some winnings because I chose all bets, meaning 2 team, 3 team, 4 team, etc.
When I called Bovada, the persons I spoke to, including a supervisor did not understand how round robins worked. I was unclear at that point, too. They told me my round robin lost because one of my fighters lost. With the explanation I found, I said that couldn't be. I shared the link with the supervisor. It surprised me that the person I spoke to and the supervisor did not understand how round robins work.
Second, the betting slip 2 team, 3 team, etc just lists all the fighters you picked over and over. Don't ask me why. I messaged BV from their site complaining about the betting slip. I'm waiting for them to clear that up.
Third, the guy I talked to called the Sports Team. They don't list the possible parlay combinations or reference them in short hand (any combination of two, three , four, etc wins.) So you can't see or know what you've bet on on your slip. Bets don't show up as a win or loss until they're settled. If you don't know that beforehand, then you're like WTF?
I have outstanding parlays in my round robin. I should be winning something.
I have a new round robin on this weekend's event. I got, Lobov, JoeB, OSP, Nelson, and Thompson in a 4 way ($3.25 to win $22.10), 3 way ($6.50 to win $24.89) and 2 way ($6.50 to win $12.54).
I also have all five in regular parlay $4 to $40.
I'm hoping BV will respond positively. I'll be checking out 5Dimes too.

I've been going full degen and betting on pga. I dont even watch it, but looking for action.
Bet365 have 72 hole match ups. EI. This weekend kuchar vs reed or garcia vs fowler. Now each match up is pretty close to even (-110) however there is an option for a tie at +1600. Now its possible these top golfers tie after 72 holes, i guess not likely.
But what if we go one more step and parlay ties in both matchups. We now get 2 team parlay at +28800. Im sure its not been unheard of.
But wait therea more. Bet365 offers 11 matchups. If you can hit a tie in 5 of them a $1 bet wins $1,419,857. Now 365 will only pay out 500,00E.
4 team is $83521 and 3 team is $4913. I decided to play it safe and pick 8 matchups anf 2team round robin them. If any 2 out of the 8 tie i make +261u from betting 26u

Sucker plays, are just that. For suckers. I’ve parlayed, teased, future bet, and round robin with the best of them. And all that noise led me to one conclusion. They’re a waste of time, effort, and money. They’re lotto tickets, false hope, and trickery all rolled into one. A 3 team parlay has 9 results, and only one results in a win for the player. And you know what? The public loves them. Have fun with this game, don’t stop. But when these games start cutting into your profits. Something’s got to change. I’ve know a player who put the same team in every parlay, and was king for a weekend. That same players was the jester many weekends after. It was hard lesson to learn. Let me save you some time and money. The more teams you add to a ticket the more your odds of winning drop. Aint no secret and the house loves to offer these games. If you have to make these types of plays then do it with a portion of your profits from single games. We make the profit, but that’s only part of what we do. We also protect the profit. Rule number one in beating this game, never give money back to the house
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